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    PumpkinPie

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    #119203   2008-05-13 12:33 GMT      
    Many people want to blame other people for not living in reality. But everyone's reality is different.

    So how can someone else tell you that you are not living in reality, when they don't know your reality?
    Such as outside people who have no knowledge of your reality or situations.
    W.Kins, but that's more of testing someone's delusions. I'm referring to the arguments against the realities of someone else like as though you know their life better than they do, even though you've never met them.

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    #119204   2008-05-13 12:42 GMT      
    They can force you to test your beliefs within that reality and when they fail, they can say your beliefs are incorrect and therefore your reality is not real.

    For instance in your reality you can fly, i challenge you to jump off the top of my car and take off....when you land on your ass and break it i can say you were not living in reality and you cannot fly :-)

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    #119205   2008-05-13 12:55 GMT      
    Without your permission what these others think is useless.
    Everyone has there own opinion. There is no possible way anyone can live someone else's reality when it comes right down to it.
    You can give someone permission to upset you and change your being with there words.
    People use the word "reality" referring to current events. Such as a beaten women who is packing to leave the hospital with the man who beat her is not living in reality. Meaning we can not possibly know her reality philosophically, however we see the reality of such a women dead within no time from other such beatings that might be worse then the one she just obtained.

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    #119206   2008-05-13 13:04 GMT      
    our indivdual reality is the equilibrium point between the extremes of our experience.

    What they mean when they say you are not living in reality is really "your experiences do not match mine". and what they tell me is they are so intrinsically superior about the quality of their experience that they cannot value the what they decry - it could be superior. Nor can they concieve of the possibilty that thier own actions might fall short of thier self-image or concede that may be true of another - and that's why thier superiority is not well recieved.

    now have i got "my head in the clouds" as my reality is often defined by others or do i have capacity provided me by my differing experience that another's lack of coorealation of experience does not allow them to value?

    if they persist in failing to understand what you understand remind them your understandings don't require them to

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    #119207   2008-05-13 13:24 GMT      
    I think I understand what you mean.
    There is that saying, I'll try to translate it for you (origin colloquial Arabic) : Nobody can feel the fire more than the one who is standing on it" or something like that. But my point is that there is no person in the earth that knows your "reality" better than you. People cannot judge other based on what THEY think because it's not the same situation! There is no single rule to be applied to all situations in life and therefore they have no right to assess your situation based on THEIR reality or how they think it should be.
    sometimes some people tend to give me advice or blame me for something I did or a decision I made and accuse ME of not being REALISTIC! What do they know actually but part of the reality they are talking about?
    So, I totally agree with your attitude. This kind of people really piss me off.
    peace!

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    #119208   2008-05-13 13:34 GMT      
    There are no multiple realities, there are no multiple nows. In the moment two people can see the same thing or not, but that is not because there are different realities it is because the two people are either seeing different aspects of the one reality or are interpreting reality differently or are in fact imagining different things. The last two, I am assuming are what you call fiction.

    Two people can experience reality differently but that is not because reality is different it is because their being is different, just like different size cups will hold different amounts, so are people in regards to their ability to experience the moment.

    So it is not that everyone's reality is different it is everyone's ability to experience reality that is different. Therefore if someone shares some aspect of reality that they are aware of that we are not and we accept it, that is become aware of it too, then our sense of reality grows, in other words, our ability to experience reality or 'now' grows.

    But if someone is not very good at experiencing reality, they will rely more on their imagination, opinions, past belief structure and subjective reactions to reality. This is obvious to anyone who makes an effort to be present to the world around them in the moment. The line you draw is you.

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    #119209   2008-05-13 13:59 GMT      
    there's a story once told to me by a friend... 4 individuals were standing in a circle... in the middle was an elephant... one said... an elephant has two tusks! the other one countered it... NO! the elephant is a huge animal! upon hearing this the other one spoke... i disagree! an elephant has a trunk! the fourth one joined in... NO! the elephant has huge legs!
    you see... all of these are real and this is reality... we may see reality in different hues but still reality is universal!
    to the people blaming or perhaps condemning others for not seeing reality the way they see it, well... the elephant knows how foolish those people are!

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    #119210   2008-05-13 14:03 GMT      
    Every subjective test seems to prove that we have the capability of experiencing 99% of reality in like ways. If I say that an orange is round, and ask you what other items are round, you will answer "balloon, apple, golf ball, the world", etc. We comprehend the same aspect of reality in the same way, even though we have different viewpoints and different brains. This seems to apply to all physical manifestations of reality.

    In so many words, someone else's definition of fiction versus reality is likely to be very much the same as yours. No one 'knows' that there is a supernatural aspect to existance. We might have some anecdotal evidence of that, but scientific recreation of supernatural events doesn't seem to me to be a possibility.

    For abstract manifestations, say "happiness", or "fright"...apart from the physical features of such feelings, it is harder to determine whether we 'feel' things the same way, but you really can't show any proof that we 'feel' things differently, all else being equal.

    Mind altering drugs, psychoactive substances, alter your overall perception so that you believe you see things that your companion, not imbibing, does not. Just a chemical reaction in your brain.

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    #119211   2008-05-13 17:46 GMT      
    No one can live your life and your reality but you.

    My reality may seem completely ridiculous to some because it doesn't fit into their "norm", but fantastic to others who applaud me. But, I am the only one who can live in my reality completely. Others may share my views, my lifestyle, my thoughts, but I am an individual who can only see the entire picture of my reality and my own thoughts.

    Every person is only responsible for their own thought and actions.
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